That's impressive. The front tires still have 80% tread life left and the rears have about 20% left, not at wear bars yet. The price of a RE71R in a 205/50-15 has gone up 10% in the past 3 years. I just clocked 36,000 miles on my 2016 M3. Keep in mind that the following comparison is made in two very different cars, so take it as you will. Form or function. Keep in mind that the Z4 is a much heavier car and has a lot more power. This was always just a daily setup that would be enough to get me back into autocross after 15+ years off. When I purchased the car, it came with a mismatched set of all weather tires that I took to an HPDE session at the beginning of 2019. To verify you're human please type the word you see above in the box below. I got about 8k out of the rears and 17k from the fronts. Even as a daily driver (I have not tracked that car in 22 years) I think I will stick with the RE71R's when the current set wear out. © 2020 FerrariChat. Lasted me about 20000 miles, only 3 track days but incredibly aggressive daily driving. I always say they are made of "black magic and mozzarella cheese". Lots of grip and great in the rain. They also kick up a huge amount of debris/pebbles. 300 vs 200 treadwear rating (lasts 66% longer), better in the wet, I'm not even sure if your car or driver can use the performance advantage of the r71r compared to PSS. I have them on my 2003 BMW M3. It should be other way around. While the PS4S have now survived the equivalent of 5 track days with relatively little wear, there are a coupe of spots where the tread has chunked. Michelin Pilot Sport 4 vs Pilot Sport 4 S vs Cup 2. 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It appears superior to the Michelin PS4S for track use (the 4S isn't really a track tire) and in my opinion (and without having actually driven a car using them) the RE71R is closer in nature to the M PSC2, but at a much lower price. But after almost a year of the RE71Rs, they are all chipped up. Never tracked or drag raced on these tires, just some high speed ramps to highways and a long 4,000 mile trip across country. I need a little more front grip to have less understeer. Do you have a pic on how much it bulges out? I find both the PSS and PS4S easily overwhelmed by M4 ZCP power even on 295s. I'll be purchasing a set of 17x8 +35 RPF1's with RE71R's just for the autocross days and maybe a track day a couple of times a year. But from a performance standpoint, they are so good at what they do. Discussion in '360/430' started by michaelo, Nov 15, 2017. If money were no object and I was looking for a road only (daily driver, if comfort and noise were important to me) tire, I would go with the M PS4S. I'm running these tires on a '98 Porsche Boxster. You and I come from very different schools of thought. ABS no longer engaged, turn-in was spectacular, grip phenomenal. One last thought. for RE71R, does it requires higher temp as MPSC2? The wet performance is much larger then the dry. Great wet weather performance and can effectively cut through small standing puddles but gets sketchy with deep puddles. Never tracked or drag raced on these tires, just some high speed ramps to highways and a long 4,000 mile trip across country. Perhaps in a colder climate I would not feel the same way, as cold weather and extreme performance tires don't get along. In fact, I will probably end up putting the RE71R on every car we own, for which they have the correct fitment (other than our BMW X1). Certain roads they do howl like crazy but around S Florida normally the road surface is not that noisy. They replaced Pilot Super Sports. Thanks, it looks like its more sticky and strong sidewall than pss and ps4s. Those tires were terrible and the ABS was constantly engaging. Also amazing how even the wear is across the thread. A tad noisy on the highway due to thread pattern. On the other hand, it has better turn-in, better cornering grip, and better feel. PSS. But having driven both in anger now, I'm going to say that Pilot Sport 4S tires on their third event are probably as good as RE-71R tires on their third event. Will definitely buy again. 305 rears on the stock 19" wheels? The tires provide all the grip you want short of mounting hoosiers to the car. They do not talk when on limit like a normal street tire, instead they grip quietly until they break free, making an awful groaning noise when they do, not the typical high pitched screeching. That and the fact that they look aggressive/cool as hell. Keep in mind that the following comparison is made in two very different cars, so take it as you will. I think that I will be able to get at least 2 seasons out of the 4S vs. about 1 or maybe a little more with the RE71R. All rights reserved. I will also make the statement that I *think* the PS4S will outlast the RE71R even on the track (or maybe especially on the track) so, even though the PS4S costs a fair amount more, overall the RE71R's may end up being more expensive. Don't mean to bring this thread back up, but would you mind posting a pic of how the whole car looks with your tire setup? After research I overcame my predilection in favor of Pirelli - I was for almost thirty years the guardian of the one-off 365GTC speciale built by Enzo for his friend, Leopoldo Pirelli, Chairman and CEO of his eponymous Company. Easily outperforms my previous tyres (ad08r and hankook rs3) in terms of outright grip. Have YOU got experience with the Bridgestone Potenza RE71R? Looks like they've got comparable tread life. I have no opinion on their wet weather or cold weather behavior as I live in Phoenix, AZ and if it rains I don't go out. I will put them on my 16M when the Pilot Super Sports wear out. These will be daily drivers with a lot of highway cruise and rain. 10/10 will buy again. I'm concerned with road noise, ... A 255 RE71R will give you more traction than a 275 PSS. With the RE71R's at 3 track days and an autocrosss day, the wear is in the 50% range and I expect to have to change them sometime during the next track season. Which model of the BC Forged? But for what I use the car for (mixed daily driver / track use), I find the B RE71R to be superior. Is that the little league field off PCH and Malibu Cnyn? Comparing the RE71R to the PS4S (BMW Z4 sDrive35i 225/35-19 F, 255/30-19 R) the RE71R's wear faster, and run noisier (and as someone else mentioned the tire has a funny/different sound anytime it … And if I ever decide to take that car to the track again, I know the tires will be up to it. Are you sure AD08R is quieter than Re71R? Has constant performance throughout the life of the tyres unlike the ad08r which was great for the first 30% and the rest felt like skating on ice. You will have to spray the tires to keep them cool on hot summer autocross days. Also, they sound like a winter tire driving down the road. Sign up to receive latest updates for Ferrari News, Threads, and Classifieds. I will be picking up the RE71R's when my Pilot Super Sports wear out. Here's a pic of the rear tire side profile. When you're on some smooth roads, they howl like crazy. Great so far. RE71R have been dominating Autocross events in America for years now. They truly are great tires and so much fun to drive aggressively on.
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